Why did I give up the valve collection?

Some of you may remember that I used to collect valves. I started collecting when I was around 6 years old, although back then it was more to impress friends than collect. An old directly heated valve plus a Lego battery box lit my desk up at primary school. I did not start collecting in earnest until the 1990’s and launched my first online valve museum in 1999. Since then the collection grew in several directions at once, including German WW2 types, Russian Cold War types and British military and civilian types. There were specials from all over the world as well including a few Japanese WW2 ones. Valves ranged from tiny little things to a RD150YB that had to live in the garage, and a 6-anode mercury arc rectifier that was equally not allowed in the house, and for good reason too. The main collection grew to over 3,000 types, many of which had duplicates, so probably 4,000 in total. And then there were boxes of valves that did not warrant adding to the collection.

And so the collection continued to expand. While on holiday in the US friend in the US was discussing collecting trends with me and another collecting friend and said he collected US antique types, others collected microwave types and, pointing at me he said I collected everything and there is nothing wrong in that. But it made me think what exactly is my interest. And so I decided to concentrate on what I found most interesting – British military types, mainly in the CV, and A, N and V military series. The collection included a number of CRTs as well and eventually took over the whole garage.

I decided then to concentrate solely on CV types and trimmed the collection to 1,500 types, again with duplicates taking the collection to over 2,000 valves. Of the remainder many were sold and many hundreds went to the National Valve Museum which was nearly as old as my own.

Eventually though three things happened. First, it was becoming increasingly difficult to find new additions. Second, the website was now seeing fewer and fewer actual hits (as opposed to search engine spiders), and, most importantly I realised it had become an obsession. Time to quit. I also came to the realisation that I had an awful lot of valves in lots of boxes and I never even looked at any once they went into a box.

So I decided to close the website and sell off anything I could, donating the remainder to the National Valve Museum. The website was essentially converted to flat HTML files with none of the database behind them and taken over by a member of the BVWS. Of course, all praise to them for doing that, but none to me for all my years of work. Par for the course. In the past 20 years I received just a handful comments thanking me for providing the photographs and information about the collection. I was somewhat surprises at the screams when I announced the website was to close. Of course, I did not make the website for that, I did it because I thought people might actually be interested, and they clearly were back at the turn of the millennium but times change.

I was fortunate that someone local took many of the CRTs and a bunch of valves as well. Of the rest, a few hundred are destined for friends in Australia, the Netherlands, Belgium and Italy but the logistics are going to be a nightmare. Several hundred have found new homes here in the UK. Of the thousands left these went to the National Valve Museum with the more mundane radio and TV types being scrapped as no-one wanted to come and get them. I am keeping many of the early magnetrons for later sale, and some of the more decorative valves for, well, decoration!

There are still several boxes and a cupboard full of valves and they are destined to be scrapped. Selling on eBay as an individual has become more and more complex over the years so I will rarely sell there. As no-one was interested in paying me a visit to take them away they will end up in the dump.

At its height the collection took over half the workshop and half the garage. Once trimmed down to the CV types it was still half the workshop. Now it is all under one bench and I have more space to set up the various tools that have been sidelined for years and actually get back to working on the house.

The end of collecting

Seeing as I closed my valve collection website down and removed much of my personal stuff before it got archived (valvecollector.uk) I suppose I had better keep my story somewhere…

I started collecting when I was just a kid but only seriously from about 1999 when I set up my first collection website, initially on a bit of webspace at work. From there it moved about a few times, first to some commercial webspace provided free by a friend who owned an ISP, then to our house, then past three other ISPs to a dedicated physical server which I rented, and then on to a VPS where it stayed until closed down and archived at the beginning of 2024.

I used to collect just about everything but it got out of hand when the collection reached 3,000 types,some of which were huge beasts. From then I settled on just CV types and almost all of the non-CV valves – about 1,500 went to the National Valve Museum, which has a website almost as old as my own. 

I first became interested in valves, and electronics in general when I was about 8. My grandad drew a sine wave on the wall to try to explain the difference between ac and dc – I forget why but I can still picture that drawing. He had a few old radios including one he built himself, all laid out on a baseboard and looking like a well-made cupboard. He showed me the valves in an old radio he gave me and then told me off as I took each valve out and popped it on the concrete to see what was inside! This started my collection, and soon after I took a battery box out of my Lego set plus two 425PEN’s into school and showed the teacher as they lit up.

Myself and a friend often frequented the local TV repair shop, and after a number of years and many visits, the people running the shop retired. My friend phoned me, we were about 12 at the time, and told me they wanted to see us. So off we went. When we got there, all their remaining unsold stock was all on display in various boxes, and with words which have become immortalised we were told ‘take anything you want’. Being 12 I guess I didn’t really know what to make of this and hurriedly studied the boxes of valves for any that I might find useful, but it all became clear when I extracted a few and was told to take all the boxes of valves rather than one or two! There must have been a couple of hundred radio/TV valves there. There were a few other bits of kit we wanted and we took the first load back to our house in bags, went back with a wheelbarrow (imagine two 12 year olds carting old radios along the road in a wheelbarrow), and finally my grandad took us for the last trip in his car.

At secondary school I discovered three things. I forget how or in what order, but they were an electronics shop in the city centre that had loads of old test kit and all sorts of goodies, a TV repair shop near the school, and a house clearance dealer, also near the school. A number of old radios came from the house clearance shop, and were either pulled apart or sold. I also expanded my valve collection with about 20 old valves from this shop. The TV repair shop owner was a good source of generic white valve boxes, plus he had a small collection himself. The electronics shop was the source of several heavy items of test gear that left their marks on the city busses as I brought them home!

My grandad had made me a workshop in the basement and I could be seen regularly carrying heavy bits of test gear home on the bus after school. The workshop went through many phases as my interests changed between test kit, radios, radio teletype, and at one stage had a wall of test kit, plus Admiralty (Murphy) B40 and B41 receivers (and I could lift both at once back then – just!), a Creed 7E teletype, several readers and perforators, and associated kit. I went through a phase of buying scrap teleprinters, rebuilding them and selling them to local radio amateurs for some extra pocket money.

Since then in various orders I discovered motorsport, got married, got a house, had kids and everything else. The collection bubbled along with new additions added regularly. But enough is enough!

The collection used to live almost entirely in the loft, out of touch. It ended up in a more accessible location and into plastic storage boxes, all indexed so I can actually find everything. This ended up taking over one end of the workshop and I will be glad to get the space back as the collection is sold off or given away bit by bit.

Valves, some rare, up for grabs

So… I am out of the valve game. Finally. Of my collection I am keeping the 10 rarest, friends are picking at the list with their wants and the rest are available if anyone is interested. Note that these are not ‘audio’ types and are all CV marked which is what I collected. Some are rare, some very rare, most are mundane but you never know you may find something of interest. The dwindling list, automatically generated is at https://m0rvb.uk/valves/valves.php along with contact information.

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